樹影 寫到: | 小弟一向不大理會門派歷史,道聽途說了多少就多少,否則就是沒完沒了的是與非,對功夫應該沒有助益。我當年只知道鄭天熊師公是跟隨他叔父鄭榮光學習太極拳,我有一位已經退休的舊同事,今年差不多70歲了,他當年就是鄭榮光的弟子,因此他知道一些當年師公練功的點滴。當年他們練功是每朝跑沙灘練氣,跟著在沙灘上練摔撻、推手、散手等練習,套路只用來熱身,內功當期時是要入室弟子才教,因此他也沒有學到。
我與吳家太極拳很有緣份,九歲那一年遇到第一位老師,他教的是傳統88式,和我後來在中學時期學的一樣,到了徐師父處所學的鄭師公一系明顯有點不同,但主要變化在圓拳之上,方拳反而是近似的。 |
whether the title door-man, disciple, student is apt is one thing. Master Chen Tin Hung [CTH] did learn for significant time from wu dai kwai [wdk]
CTH is great fighter and made most important contribution to HK Taiji world, esp. Wu style. Many have this view.
However, when he fought and injured people back in his home village, he did come to HK to his uncle Cheng Wing Kwong , who recommended him to learn from wdk.
I still have with me, old folk K that practice with him in wdk's place at that moment. And when CTH was ambushed in Wanchai, Gooseneck Bridge, by sword painted black, this old folk visited in hospital. He is still alive and around.
also, when cth first started up, he had a difficult period, I have one other old folk L,who learn from him, in the afternoon in Argyle Street, and they went out to drink coffee as a custom ,only two of them, when they chatted ernestly. Those years, he got marriage problem and little students. he frankly told this old folk why he refused to accept he learned from the kam chuen Association openly...one simple word... it is market strategy.
And later, CTH made good achievement, one friend of mine, Y, was his team captain for fighting in Wanchai QE Stadium, that was time of Tong Chikin. CTH also told Y frankly about that he learned from WDK.
There are others who were with CTH in South China sports Assn, under WDK those years, they are in their 80-90s, and they are still active and healthy and available for yumcha with me now.
I know about this early since the 1950s, when CTH started up, got famous, teach the USD people, and then got the control of the HK USD parks. Not just hearsay.
Of all books of HKWu style, other than the gold book [ you can say better than the gold book] the best photo record of the wu form is CTH's yellow book. Any one who learns from WDK would know he was always saying 'SAAT YUNG' Practical. And this is the slogan of CTH at start up. CTH, WDK do look similar in approach and emphasis on short time training, simple approach, and throw/takedown skills.
There are few others with this , probably in Wu style all over the world,.....even
Shanghai Kamchuen, Beijing Wu style, and even the KamChuen under Wu kungyee.
over the world we now have those lineage like LeeShuk[ LeeJeungShut]-MokChi-YiHoo-LeeManCharn[mai sung Lee] , good in throw.....from WDK.
we also got DanDancherty in UK from CTH
their similarity? throw.
DOOR MAN, seems a downgrade word but actually learning from someone else and getting as good as the teacher or even better always happens.
....... wutaiji2
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