太極拳大師們的層次之分：太極原理的掌握，也是因人而異

天亮了，送给大家下下火。
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg9eQgXbPUI

”、、、、大師這架勢在黑白片中其不少學生們做出來時剛好就出現了我顧慮的缺點了，腰扳往前挺好象打詠春拳一樣，當然他們學習階段是不可避免有缺點、、、”
以上引用陆老。

教学传授的难度，我的起萌”钱”老师，父：”钱西樵”，田兆霖排名弟子。
拳架只教我们朋履挤按，单鞭偶试范，每天一打拳，老师只提悟，剩下的就是摇手说：”不行”，说的人冒火，弟子一个个跑，剩我一个，后小叶回来，我和他天天磨在一起，老师还是口头提悟，天天摇手说”不行”，直到内知觉清醒，才知这不行那不行，不待他说，就自知了。功夫好如不涉系统，应和个人努力修为有关，陶师传自郑，和钱师约同年，相识而交手，一下就上墙贴着了，钱师就成了陶师第一届学员和朋友，得机就把我带到台北，故陶师为第二启悟，身教多于言教......，启悟而不是强制，故学生的拳架人人不同，适性而已。
师已去，直至自已和友人分享，也喜启悟教学法，因为当我对美国这的好友”柏辰”说是”悬”著的感觉,如二泉所言，他老兄头一顶正，胸一挺，我又得举例，调他至柔和的周身至悬垂状，那是捏模，动起来，用起来，隔几天，老毛病又来了。他每星期六来一次。他有恒，我也有兴趣的恒，就在一起了。
小叶跟我在一起十五六年的拳友，曾有膝的问题，因规矩自我”执着”搞到膝痛，一切顺乎自然，松沉安舒，长长久久，不自觉的，膝就没问题了。
宗宪有他自已的多年功底，他之所以和我混在一起，我不改变他原有的功夫，我只适应他的功夫，他的提问,我只能热心明示，如他有体悟的喜悦是来自于他自已的热忱想要，过程中我还是觉得”教”难”，尤其是松沉中内气牵动而起的手和做家事习惯用力举手的手，要教就是难，
买老的不动手的体悟，滴滴点点在心头。


......Fred Hao

以下我跟gene第三次武术交换後的信，我喜欢这种方式。

It was great getting together with you and Jun Long Wang. I had a wonderful time and was floating for some days afterward. There is something you can't describe with words about being with skilled players. The exchange of energy is just fantastic.
I know we talked a bit about the focus of our personal practice, but one thing I didn't get to talk to you about was the fact that for me, at this point T'ai Chi is about understanding the nature of reality, that is really my goal. What do you think about this? Is it something that has come up for you as well? If so there is much to share.
By the way, I just realized I will be out of the country (my girlfriend, baby and I are going to Turkey for two weeks in September) so I cannot make the Push Hands Group Sept. 26th. But I will attend the October 24th Meetup. Feel free to email or give a call anytime. It is always a pleasure to catch up with you. Gene


.....Fred Hao

第一次见面之后的信中内容

Hello Fred,
     I hope you are enjoying your trip to Taiwan snd getting a lot accomplished. I just wanted to let you know what a great time I had catching up with you at Push-Hands. Just being around your energy effects me very positively for many days afterwards. It has actually caused me to think quite a bit about the way I do T'ai Chi, as something special happens when I do it with you. I guess there is a unique connection any two people have when they Push Hands, it is just with some it is more interesting than with others.
     Anyhow I have been thinking a lot about T'ai Chi and am realizing that I do my own interpretation of Yang Style T'ai Chi and so with this realization I am working on developing it and am calling it Cloud T'ai Chi. You have been instrumental in my coming to this realization and so, I consider you an influential master in the style. I hope I am not being presumptuous and that it is okay with you to include you in this way. To me, Cloud T'ai Chi is about the air and the emptiness or space that surrounds us, and that anything entering into that emptiness can be known by us, if we are sensitive and aware. I believe the empiness or space that surrounds us is alive and conscious and that we can draw information from it. I guess that is my philosophy regarding what I am trying to do.
     Another question I have for you is have you ever heard that term before? Is anyone already doing Cloud T'ai Chi? I have heard Cloud Hands, etc. but not Cloud T'ai Chi. Anyhow, these are my thoughts and I would love to get your feedback and look forward to when we can get together again.
                                         Until that time, Best Wishes- Gene Golden


....Fred Hao

Fred Hao 寫到:

Another question I have for you is have you ever heard that term before? Is anyone already doing Cloud T'ai Chi? I have heard Cloud Hands, etc. but not Cloud T'ai Chi.

Cloud 不能表達太極的陰陽兩面.

Cloud Hands 是雲手吧. 雲手表現的是進.

....小毛頭

chhguo 寫到:

二泉 寫到: >>鄭曼青先生的拳架，下盤穩固，前腳膝蓋對腳尖，後腳亦如是，此勢能自然產生掤勁，這是鄭子拳架的要求，（沒有涉獵其他門派，不知要求如何）後腳與前腳對稱如橋墩，襠圓如拱，正是澄甫先生所講十要的圓襠屈膝。 另外可能要得罪chhguo兄了，您上面這段描述，跟鄭子自己在這影片裡的論述是有些出入的，這可能是傳幾代後的偏差(這句話可能會得罪不少人)，跟陸先生的問題有關，所以也提一下。基本上是全身鬆淨，一切中正自然。 個人淺見 2Spring 二泉兄見外了，怎會得罪呢。 橋墩比喻是我自己平時用詞，可能嫌硬，我清楚，我想說明的是後腳雖虛，掤勁還要自然，與跪膝有分別，是否誤會成雙腳有力。 至若膝蓋對腳尖，骨盆與前腳成直角等規矩，習慣之後拮抗肌肉都能鬆柔自然，展轉自如，所以我從不懷疑這樣的要求。 不是之處盼二泉兄指正。

Chhguo 兄大量，請注意影片中 ”bend the knee” 的說明。

2Spring

chhguo 寫到:

我的英文不靈光，所以參考原帶的中文解說，從開時談虛實腳後，『站的時候膝蓋不可超過腳趾，跨要擺正朝前方，後腿不要直，後膝要彎，前腿膝蓋不可超過腳趾，如果後腿是直的，身子會前傾，所以要彎後膝，跨扭正...…. 』 我不知道二泉兄是不是指這裡。 如果是這裡，我們平常都這麼要求，與我的發言矛盾之處還希望二泉兄明示，我的腦筋轉彎少，不會猜，最好能指明，我好理解，您這兩貼都在考我猜題。 「傳幾代後的偏差」我很在意，若有偏差應及時修正。

Chhguo兄，是講這裡沒錯，您知道後膝要彎才不會頂身體前傾。同理，在另外一個平面上，後膝亦不要刻意對著後腳以成圓檔，基本上是鬆垂自然為佳，否則練一輩子卡在腰胯而不自知。愚見，不夾檔就是圓檔，總之就是不張不閉。

2Spring

不是「平正安穩」，是「平正安舒」。
這也不是他一生的追求。
說得到像你天天見著他，知道他的「心願」似的。

有些人就喜歡把自己的話安裝在別人頭上，還假傳聖旨﹗

還是賣老讓人喜歡。不假道學。
怕自己把師門給弄臭，寧願不說出師門。是真尊師。
遠比一個混蛋不懂裝懂天天打著鄭子的旗號卻是給鄭子丟人要高明千倍﹗
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我天天都在想太極拳為何要從慢練起﹖

Chhguo兄:

>>我談規矩，沒有方向就沒有目標，沒有圓襠則虛腳蹋無活力，掤勁無由，後腳之述，順應腳走直線運動之生理構造及三分活力而已，至於規矩之後，造化由人。

如上您所述，我有些小看法。

從我port 上的“CMC form body position” 影片中 )00:00 ~00:10 秒，是在描述虛實腳的，他用Haevy and Light, Full and Empty, Alive and Dead的字眼，這虛腳是Light(輕), Empty(空), Dead(不活躍)。另外我們也可發現，無論哪一腳都沒用Strength這字眼，所以我以為無論虛實腳，”活力”、”掤勁” 都不會用上，都要放下，這是跟他在十三篇理論裏講的兩腳都不用力是吻合的。

您有上述的認識，應是從自修心法的足步圖解釋而來的，上次跟Lebai 兄討論三七步也是談到這裡，我個人覺得這是文字的表達方式容易讓人誤解，而大部分學鄭子的人也沒發現，而一直被流傳的關係。如果你先看影片中 )00:35 ~00:37秒，再看自修心法的足步圖解釋，或許會有不同的解讀。”if this is straight , it will lean you forward。自修心法的足步圖的敘述，我的解釋，那是描述後腳實腳轉換至前腳實的三七步過程的描述(並不是定式靜態的三七重量分配)。請chhguo也注意這”lean”字，有斜坡似的斜滑或斜靠過去(不用力)，直到落實到前腳。三分(輕也)活力(靈也)，一舉動週身俱要輕靈。稍稍解釋如上，細節就不談了。

2Spring

由自身的功體和功用來說,只能參考無法普遍適用
鬆沉和彈力性質不同,各有功體和功用
肩肘的活性關係如言實體鬆沉則肘沉氣消,肩活懸而成氣鼓氣消之往復動盪,如鐘擺,肘稍沉, 腕可展出也可牽回全看意,腕展則指尖未稍意氣貫神經則指展,反之則指受腕牽,腕受肘沉牽,肘能盪回,皆因肩懸活,然不脫貫串之牽動皆因腰胯膝脚之提供空間與上連接, 膝曲則胯腰以上之鬆沉之體得以落,充此路徑筋絡之氣則有管道可下,用時常以往復彈力,人以掤說, 但此反彈如用之不得時機反被人用,續言,鬆沉透曲膝則內氣流下質重落柔脚而形成兩脚愈實貼但質重在弓步脚底覺之不同,此流沙和重物互動象,
流沙和竹彈現象不同,流沙屬引進落空之消用,益於體,竹彈於得機得勢之合用時,則省力, 但功體不離功用, 因這是任人打來的---拳


.....Fred Hao