吳式太極專題: 吳家太極拳在香港的傳播, 拳式功理法討論

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太極功之外的抗打功法好像也有幾種。但所知不詳。西洋式的抗打訓練，似乎是 純粹的強肌鍛練，恐怕不能跟太極功相提並論了。

我和 Russian Systema 的朋友也有接觸。他們是用呼吸，意念和身法來柔化。跟太極有一點相似，效果也不錯。

詠春師傅 Wang Kam Leung 的抗打也非常厲害。我連他的喉也打不入。

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqDVajCHKGQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-LyenZd1Ac&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDKM4HrYQ_s
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我和 Russian Systema 的朋友也有接觸。他們是用呼吸，意念和身法來柔化。跟太極有一點相似，效果也不錯。

Systema 有用意念力量 拉（秋）走 (pull away) 或瀉走 受擊打後的痛楚， 牙科醫生可否說說？


..........Taz

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Dr. John K. Fung 寫到: 我和 Russian Systema 的朋友也有接觸。他們是用呼吸，意念和身法來柔化。跟太極有一點相似，效果也不錯。 Sorry, when it gets complicated, I have to reply in English. I have seen it, but not experienced it myself. I believe is the combination of the following effects: 1. The action of the facilitator tends to disrupt the action of the striker, making the strike less penetrative. 2. Pain is a subjective feeling and not purely a sensory input. When the mind of the receiver of the strike is disrupted, he feels less pain. Kind of like Rapid Induction and Pattern Disruption used in NLP. Faith also plays a certain role. 3. When the person is hit, the residual muscular spasm as a result of the injury may delay recovery. Hence if you can learn to relax, it may speed up recovery. I think psychology and mind mapping plays a major role in this phenomenon. Scientifically, we are not spending enough research on mind mapping and martial arts. Systema 有用意念力量 拉（秋）走 (pull away) 或瀉走 受擊打後的痛楚， 牙科醫生可否說說？

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Tornado Taz 寫到: Dr. John K. Fung 寫到: 我和 Russian Systema 的朋友也有接觸。他們是用呼吸，意念和身法來柔化。跟太極有一點相似，效果也不錯。 Sorry, when it gets complicated, I have to reply in English. I have seen it, but not experienced it myself. I believe is the combination of the following effects: 1. The action of the facilitator tends to disrupt the action of the striker, making the strike less penetrative. 2. Pain is a subjective feeling and not purely a sensory input. When the mind of the receiver of the strike is disrupted, he feels less pain. Kind of like Rapid Induction and Pattern Disruption used in NLP. Faith also plays a certain role. 3. When the person is hit, the residual muscular spasm as a result of the injury may delay recovery. Hence if you can learn to relax, it may speed up recovery. I think psychology and mind mapping plays a major role in this phenomenon. Scientifically, we are not spending enough research on mind mapping and martial arts. Systema 有用意念力量 拉（秋）走 (pull away) 或瀉走 受擊打後的痛楚， 牙科醫生可否說說？

以在下所知太極功的抗打和Systema(John 所講的)有很大分別.

.......Vincent

太極功的抗打，是以全意迎抗打擊，而不是馮牙醫所說的分散自己的注意力。也無
須分散打擊者的注意來減低他的滲透力。

受擊後不覺痛才顯示有足夠的功力。覺痛、與及感到肌肉痙攣，是承受不起擊打
的現象。...咁就要繼續苦練啦！


鄭天熊的徒孫...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W7zqk7oduI&feature=related
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有影像為憑，易於明瞭；
無事實根據，難以探討！

有心植影流的事前避免懷孕程序 與 神到無念流之事後逃避懷孕法門, 是不同的.

但是, 又不能說神到無念流沒有事前避免懷孕程序的課程內容, 只是Just in case.

特別是在 訓練事前避免懷孕程序的實踐(fieldwork) 階段。

Sorry, 誤會。

我用英文寫的那些不是抗打，而是由第三者把被打的人的痛楚拿走。

the Systema people do not like to demonstrate this. I'll see if I can find something on YouTube.

Cheers,
John
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楊無敵的太極功！

關於楊無敵的太極功，有如下的傳說：

楊遊京師日，有一拳師聞無敵名而妒之。請與鬥。楊初示勿欲。其人以為楊怯也，
請之益堅。楊辭不獲，乃許之。笑曰：「既君堅欲鬥，可先擊我三拳。」拳師聞言
大喜，遂起拳猛擊楊腹。楊笑哈之聲未竭，而其人已仆於三丈以外矣！

（取自《太極拳刀劍桿散手合篇》，作者陳公）
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霍潔泉師傅談吳陳比武01 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkhrViWkjf0 霍潔泉師傅談吳陳比武02 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r8-WiX6Umk&feature=related 相不信 由你 !

今時今日為可仍有人一定要在拳架內找招式, 硬拗什麼栽棰, 彎弓射虎. 難道一拳一腳的實戰是很可恥的事嗎? 實話實說為什麼我們要100%相信古代的拳論呢?

..........Vincent

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今時今日為可仍有人一定要在拳架內找招式, 硬拗什麼栽棰, 彎弓射虎. 難道一拳一腳的實戰是很可恥的事嗎? 實話實說為什麼我們要100%相信古代的拳論呢?

周星馳口吻 : 打你唔贏， 講經都講贏你，死未？ 靚仔仲唔認輸？

師父話太極拳講法度， 講法規。 你唔係用我認同既太極方法打贏我都是你輸， 明解無？

......Taz