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楊式太極拳全體大用訣

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 樓主| 海大富 發表於 2011-7-3 21:39:44 | 顯示全部樓層
空空兄,

Sure. I've read the article before. I know the fact about the different between a student and a disciple. Thank you.
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橫看成嶺側成峰,
遠近看山皆不同;
不知廬山真面目,
只緣身在此山中。
 樓主| 海大富 發表於 2011-7-3 21:40:10 | 顯示全部樓層
東東兄,

看碟一定鉈鉈令,耍到暈. Sorry. What I saw is not VCD but outdated video tapes. They were secretly recorded inside the practising house of the Shanghai Martial Art Team with high wall. Fu had demonstrated the practise that he considered to be the secret of Yangs Family TC that transmitted by Master Yang Ching Po. By that time the government control strictly about recording and that kind of things. Not 鉈鉈令,耍到暈.

楊式太極拳,可以好玩野,藏到你睇唔到都得!Yes. Some of the movement were exactly opposit in form practise and free fight practice. Just like what Yang Ching Po had said to one of his disciple. Even you stood behind me watched and learned all the movements, you still know not about Yangs Family TCC. Moreover, there are still some 30 to 40 SanShou that Yang Ching Po delibrately kept solely for his son. How can one know the original of the Yangs Family TCC just by practising the Yangs TC form! Of course, one can still think out something from the forms, but that is not the Yangs Family TCC. May be I talk too much!

能看出傅老楊拳內涵嗎?Definitely, teacher Fu had some kungfu just because of hard training in the youth! Also some of his practice had something in it, but not much. My opinion only. I just an novice. Not an expert. I doubt is there any person that can be called expert of the Yangs Family TCC. Even the direct decendants of Yang Ching Po! Again I say too much. Forgive me. No more.
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橫看成嶺側成峰,
遠近看山皆不同;
不知廬山真面目,
只緣身在此山中。
 樓主| 海大富 發表於 2011-7-3 21:42:54 | 顯示全部樓層
難得投契!more is better but not than enough
無意兄,是否指一蟹不如一蟹?

楊澄甫早期弟子和後期弟子拳架亦有不同!互有批評。
楊澄甫架亦與祖傳不同啦!
一代傳一代,原汁原味乎?
若要印証原本,定必要宗師回陽!


.......東東
 樓主| 海大富 發表於 2011-7-3 21:43:19 | 顯示全部樓層
東東兄,

是否指一蟹不如一蟹?Not exactly. Of course, the modern man usually don't have enough time to practise. I mean due to the deliberately reservation of Yangs Family masters which is understandable, the original Yangs Family TCC had been near lost totally.

楊澄甫早期弟子和後期弟子拳架亦有不同!互有批評。
楊澄甫架亦與祖傳不同啦!

Yes. Master YCF deliberately altered his Family TCC. But the alteration was not much. The most amazing thing is he deliberately teached wrong things to his student! So what?

一代傳一代,原汁原味乎? Different in form but same in 汁 and 味.
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橫看成嶺側成峰,
遠近看山皆不同;
不知廬山真面目,
只緣身在此山中。
 樓主| 海大富 發表於 2011-7-3 21:44:04 | 顯示全部樓層
無意 寫到:
東東兄,

一代傳一代,原汁原味乎? Different in form but same in 汁 and 味.

無錯!這就是內在功夫

但架式的差別絕對影響往高層次的路
若照足現公開流行楊式,擔保功夫得五成
這就是架式面對失傳的原因了

.....東東
 樓主| 海大富 發表於 2011-7-3 21:44:41 | 顯示全部樓層
Kenneth 寫到:
真的有五成也不錯... 有嗎?

幾多成都沒問題!
講得少似乎唔比面,多左又似乎誇獎。
好耐冇見你大名 ,上山修練乎!

.....東東
 樓主| 海大富 發表於 2011-7-3 21:45:29 | 顯示全部樓層
小生並非大人物,小名不足掛,small potato 而已。

因一重要朋友探訪,24小時保護.......幾星期沒有時間上網.....


......Kenneth
 樓主| 海大富 發表於 2011-7-3 21:46:12 | 顯示全部樓層
Kenneth 寫到:
小生並非大人物,小名不足掛,small potato 而已。

因一重要朋友探訪,24小時保護.......幾星期沒有時間上網.....

24小時.....應該屬‵呵護′!
保重身體


........東東
 樓主| 海大富 發表於 2011-7-3 21:46:46 | 顯示全部樓層
身體很好..... 不是呵護... 哈哈
朋友已回國,又重拾辛苦的練習... 比師傅語左我lazy... 要努力!........


........Kenneth

 樓主| 海大富 發表於 2011-7-3 21:47:12 | 顯示全部樓層
東東兄,

現公開流行楊式,擔保功夫得五成

I guess not. It depends on whether they know the mystery of the Yangs form. Moreover, even they know the mystery of the form if they do not know the method of training. They still don't have the Yangs 功夫.
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