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海大富 發表於 2011-7-12 17:09:36 | 顯示全部樓層
Dr. John K. Fung 寫到:
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魏老師也親筆寫給我, “希鑽研探索要訣, 發揚光大.” 我只希望能做到不令老人家失望.

太極馮正

魏老囑咐馮医生要把太極拳發揚光大。馮医生應該是學有所成的了!!!
但看看馮医生的雲手演示:www.youtube.com/imperialtaichi
竟然教人硬接來拳!!!這又如何去把太極拳發揚光大???

是某人不會教?還是某人學不來?
是學未成而先出師?抑或是已學成而仍不懂?

對這硬接來拳的雲手,魏老是滿意還是失望???

以事論事,實事求是!

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有影像為憑,易於明瞭;
無事實根據,難以探討!
海大富 發表於 2011-7-12 17:10:29 | 顯示全部樓層
引言回覆:
雲手演示:www.youtube.com/imperialtaichi


A few points to clear:

1. As stated, the arms are soft; it is not 硬接, but deflect through the whole body movements, and not the arms. So the opponent would feel his forces going nowhere, but not like hitting a hard surface.

2. For demo purposes, I received a few more hits before bouncing the opponent off, in order to illustrate a point. In real life, I would move in a.s.a.p.

3. Similar techniques are seen in Boxing/Cage Fights. A good boxer would also deflect, and not hard take. There are only so many ways a body can move effectively, Tai Chi is no exceptions. Good Boxers, such as Floyd Mayweather (look up Youtube) when he is against the ropes, he also uses such technique using the turning of the whole body to deflect, not hard take.

4. This is used as a last resort to save oneself. You would see Boxers doing this kind of techniques often when he is against the ropes. In realistic situations, one should be more adaptive and use the most simple method because it is less likely to go wrong; As long as it works, and it uses minimal effort, then it is the right technique.

So, the irony is, should one look for complex and idealistic but inefficient techniques? Or should one use simple, effective, easy to learn and easy to use techniques? Should I, as a teacher, teach someone to use complex techniques that take years to develope to handle a situation, or should I teach them something simple that adheres to Tai Chi principles that they can use to save themselves easily?

People who had realistic fighting situations would understand this. I believe Taz, Mr. Pak and Gingerfish would know exactly what I was doing. The bottom line is, to untrained eyes this is hard style technique; but to trained and skilled practitioners he/she would see it is adhering to Tai Chi principles.

Cheers,
John

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海大富 發表於 2011-7-12 17:11:39 | 顯示全部樓層
Dr. John K. Fung 寫到:
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雲手演示:www.youtube.com/imperialtaichi


A few points to clear:

1. As stated, the arms are soft; it is not 硬接, but deflect through the whole body movements, and not the arms. So the opponent would feel his forces going nowhere, but not like hitting a hard surface....

http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=gnwC_IDlzyg

馮哥哥的雙手護頭法,直是不倫不類。這樣的怪招也想得出來!
論實效,又豈及西洋拳的雙手護頭何不乾脆就用西洋拳法好了?

body movement 擺動雙手去護頭,又怎能比得上連環捶速度?……
那不是大話西遊是什麼???

說拳頭硬不過額頭,也是一廂情願的想法。…再用腦想想吧!
搏擊可以不用護額……唉,這是太極拳的搏擊法?……天呀!!!

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有影像為憑,易於明瞭;
無事實根據,難以探討!
海大富 發表於 2011-7-12 17:12:33 | 顯示全部樓層
蒙塵 寫到:
http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=gnwC_IDlzyg

馮哥哥的雙手護頭法,直是不倫不類。這樣的怪招也想得出來!
論實效,又豈及西洋拳的雙手護頭何不乾脆就用西洋拳法好了?

body movement 擺動雙手去護頭,又怎能比得上連環捶速度?……
那不是大話西遊是什麼???

說拳頭硬不過額頭,也是一廂情願的想法。…再用腦想想吧!
搏擊可以不用護額……唉,這是太極拳的搏擊法?……天呀!!!

Mr. Mon,

1. 你何意把我說 ”Don’t worry too much about the forehead….. more important to cover the face” 改成 “不用護額”? 真打的是候那個重要: 保護面, 還是保護額? 亂寫別人沒有說過的東西是很不君子的所為.

2. Body Movement 會比對手快, 因為做得對得話身體是不須要動很多.

3. 用手來擋是很笨的; 因為手一離開就容易露出虛位給對方打入.

4. 醫學上額骨可乘受80G以上之力, 大部份人的拳是打不出的. 不過我也說過要頸力受得了才行.

我本來不想理你, 但是你總是要胡言亂語來說我. 你常說到自己”出手見紅”; 為甚麼連最基本的東西也不明白?

只想網友們平個理.

太極馮正

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www.imperialtaichi.com
海大富 發表於 2011-7-12 17:13:12 | 顯示全部樓層
http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=qLxxv0N1OW0

skull test。

拳手可打超過自己三倍體重的力。

但腦囪豆腐花可受多少震蕩,則難知。

所以業餘賽要戴頭盔。


.......網友
海大富 發表於 2011-7-13 15:57:50 | 顯示全部樓層
慢鏡,個頭盔做出太極化勁。

不是《球碰壁》,不是《錢投鼓》,也不是《前頭股》,更不是《頭碰壁》,

是...是...是....失傳千年的太極先天化勁【球碰盔】!



問題是:

頭盔從沒有學太極,更不懂唸詩,也不知王宗岳拳論為何物。

何解它懂【球碰盔】,人呢?



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海大富 發表於 2011-7-13 15:58:21 | 顯示全部樓層
即是練到個身似西瓜椰子,都可以被打爆。

練頭盔=鐵布衫


網友
海大富 發表於 2011-7-13 15:59:00 | 顯示全部樓層
Dr. John K. Fung 寫到:
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Mr. Mon,

1. 你何意把我說 ”Don’t worry too much about the forehead….. more important to cover the face” 改成 “不用護額”? 真打的是候那個重要: 保護面, 還是保護額? 亂寫別人沒有說過的東西是很不君子的所為.

2. Body Movement 會比對手快, 因為做得對得話身體是不須要動很多.

3. 用手來擋是很笨的; 因為手一離開就容易露出虛位給對方打入.

4. 醫學上額骨可乘受80G以上之力, 大部份人的拳是打不出的. 不過我也說過要頸力受得了才行.

我本來不想理你, 但是你總是要胡言亂語來說我. 你常說到自己”出手見紅”; 為甚麼連最基本的東西也不明白?

只想網友們平個理.

太極馮正

馮哥哥稍安無躁!

Don’t worry too much about the forehead” 等如 “需要護額” 嗎???
老朽的英文不好。多多見諒!!!

用手來擋是很笨的”…??...馮哥哥不正是用手擋拳嗎?你是說自已笨嗎?

額骨可乘受80G以上之力”……那你的頭皮呢???
骨不折,皮會破嗎?會血流蓋眼嗎?會痛嗎?腦袋不會受震盪嗎?…

學武的人一般都會打沙包把拳頭練得堅實。馮哥哥有教人先練鐵頭功
來抗打
嗎???
抑或是,馮哥哥的功夫、就好像陸兄的一樣、只用來對付不懂拳腳的人的?

馮哥哥的師父不教,為什麼不去請教實戰經驗豐富的郭師兄?
He is only a phone call away!電話是886933039336。24小時隨時可以打。
有好一位師兄不去請教,卻要盲中中的去想出個笨招來用。沒天份就要虛心受教啦!

你常說到自己”出手見紅”; 為甚麼連最基本的東西也不明白?」……
就是因為這樣才要馮哥哥好好愛惜額頭,千萬別叫人don’t worry” 呀!!!
武術界中,出手見紅的拳擊家何其多!!!

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有影像為憑,易於明瞭;
無事實根據,難以探討!
海大富 發表於 2011-7-13 15:59:34 | 顯示全部樓層
白先生 寫到:
即是練到個身似西瓜椰子,都可以被打爆。

練頭盔=鐵布衫

咁?得唔得?

Basic Mode ?




Advance form ?


海大富 發表於 2011-7-13 18:22:19 | 顯示全部樓層
虎背熊腰,邊夠你玩呢。

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