何謂「內氣」 ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vfv-W1gtkuI&feature=related

陳小旺先生的功夫非常好。

在這裡他解釋何謂「內氣」。
我這下真搞懂「內氣」的意思了。

如用現代的觀點，那不能出力的原因不是「內氣」不通，
而是肌肉群處在它們不能作功的狀態，所以無法發力:

http://www2.ouk.edu.tw/yen/chinese/fourprinciples.htm
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hyl8mg4Pg6o&feature=related

陳小旺先生功夫好，
拳也教得好﹗

我推
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubKpMGaibi0&feature=related


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Great stuff!!!

Thanks   .......  roop

這位是我心目中的大師
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Leen-Hoo Choung 寫到:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hyl8mg4Pg6o&feature=related 陳小旺先生功夫好， 拳也教得好﹗ 我推 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubKpMGaibi0&feature=related

陳先生善剛勁而不善柔化。
受廖白先生的急勁雙推掌而被擊退小半步。

有圖為証...

......雙搭手

......廖雙推掌

......陳被擊退


請看動畫...
http://s281.photobucket.com/albums/kk223/geoshu/?action=view&current=ChenvsLiao.flv
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無事實根據，難以探討！

Leen-Hoo Choung 寫到:

如用現代的觀點，那不能出力的原因不是「內氣」不通， 而是肌肉群處在它們不能作功的狀態，所以無法發力:

Very good Mr. Choung.

"Nei Qi" is more a functional description of an observable phenomenon, than an absolute entity; When we look deeper, we often see the underlying physics and physiology at play.

But if Qi is not "absolute", then why do we still talk about it? Because sometimes the functional description/jargon can be more direct and useful. If I talk to you about a "Banana", you will understand much easier than me saying "a yellow fruit high in carbohydrates and potassium set in a cellulose matrix"; but to someone who had never seen a banana, he may call all those people who talk about bananas "bull sh!t".

Cheers,
John
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蒙塵 寫到:

Leen-Hoo Choung 寫到: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hyl8mg4Pg6o&feature=related 陳小旺先生功夫好， 拳也教得好﹗ 我推 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubKpMGaibi0&feature=related 陳先生善剛勁而不善柔化。 受廖白先生的急勁雙推掌而被擊退小半步。 有圖為証... ......雙搭手 ......廖雙推掌 ......陳被擊退 請看動畫... http://s281.photobucket.com/albums/kk223/geoshu/?action=view&current=ChenvsLiao.flv

既然知道陳小旺善剛勁，就可以知道和廖白那一個笑話他更本沒出手。
我聽說在一個教學課程，一位歐美人士挑戰陳小旺，被陳小旺一個抖勁打進急救病
房。

像你那三腳貓的把戲就別提了。
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Dr. John K. Fung 寫到:

Leen-Hoo Choung 寫到: 如用現代的觀點，那不能出力的原因不是「內氣」不通， 而是肌肉群處在它們不能作功的狀態，所以無法發力: Very good Mr. Choung. "Nei Qi" is more a functional description of an observable phenomenon, than an absolute entity; When we look deeper, we often see the underlying physics and physiology at play. But if Qi is not "absolute", then why do we still talk about it? Because sometimes the functional description/jargon can be more direct and useful. If I talk to you about a "Banana", you will understand much easier than me saying "a yellow fruit high in carbohydrates and potassium set in a cellulose matrix"; but to someone who had never seen a banana, he may call all those people who talk about bananas "bull sh!t". Cheers, John

John:

It is you want to talk abot qi.

Personally, I've never talked about Qi and I don't believe its existence in the martial art domain. Granted, the Akido originator also talked about Qi.

I have yet to see anyone who has used qi to overcome brute force.
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Leen-Hoo Choung 寫到:

I have yet to see anyone who has used qi to overcome brute force.

I have never seen "Qi" overcoming brute force either; I had NEVER claim that in any of my posts.

But aren't you saying that "如用現代的觀點，那不能出力的原因不是「內氣」不通，
而是肌肉群處在它們不能作功的狀態，所以無法發力:" which means there is an underlying physiological reason behind Nei Qi?

Nei Qi is just a MODEL to describe certain observable phenomenon. The exact underlying physiology/physics? No body knows for sure yet. It is not about whether you believe in it or not. Whether you call it "banana" or "Xiang Jiao" it is still a fruit.
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從來在武術方面是沒有常勝將軍的，就算王二毛號稱常勝將軍他也自謙只是在某一規範及時空中的勝利，只有终身不懈，才能有成就。廖白確非庸手，發勁脆快猛，第一個照面给陳小旺反震出去可見小旺的化發都在刹那間，如各位聽清楚他們的交談就應該聽到小旺要他放胆出手，同時也很清楚看到小旺沒有全力進功，以交流為主，整個過程中小旺也失了一招，化解不了廖白的全力進攻，甚至腳步摇晃也是事實，高手對壘得失只在呼吸之間，交手對壘勝負雙方很多時候相差只一綫之間，甚至連評判都難以取捨而忍痛判一方敗落也是常有的事，陳廖之切搓也不兩樣，你可以說他那一招柔化不了，但並不等于沒有柔化功夫，尤其對著廖白這樣的高手，而且小旺只守不攻，就算再斗下去時也會出現互有閃失的局面也說不定。好象以前說楊澄甫擅發，吴鑑泉擅化是形容他們各自的風格，但如果要楊澄甫發勁而吴鑑泉柔化接招豈非變成予子之矛刺子之盾的故事嗎。

    ......  陸師傅